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I’ve been in finance for 30 years—and this is how I teach my kids about money

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I’ve been in finance for 30 years—and this is how I teach my kids about money

“How do I teach my kids about money?”

I hear this question often, and if you’re a parent, you’ve probably Googled it several times yourself.

In my 30 years of professional experience, I’ve worked as an auditor, investor, tax preparer and financial consultant — and I’ve witnessed the impact of financial literacy (or lack thereof) on countless adults of all ages.

Teaching your children about money doesn’t have to be complicated. You either put in the effort and time, or you don’t. And if you do, it’s best to start sooner rather than later. (According to a 2013 Cambridge University study, children are already able to grasp basic money concepts at age three, and by age seven, their money habits are already set.)

How we teach our kids about money

My wife and I have two kids, both under 14. Like most parents, we don’t want them to suffer from financial anxiety when they’re older. Nor do we want them to be in debt and have to eat into our retirement savings.

The same way we want them to understand the importance of telling the truth or saying “please” and “thank you,” we also want them to understand the importance of money: What it’s worth, why it’s important and how to practice smart habits that lead to success.

In order to do that, we keep things fun and simple:

1. We play “Let’s Go Shopping”

I’ve found that my kids are more engaged in the learning process when it’s experimental or gamified. “Let’s Go Shopping” was a game we played when they were in preschool.

To start, we created a miniature supermarket in our living room — complete with a toy cash register and a farmer’s market fruits and vegetables play set. The register featured a numerical keypad, cash drawer and pretend money.

After my wife and I priced the items, we had one child do the shopping while the other handled checkout. We stood by to facilitate and answer questions. But eventually, they became skilled enough to play on their own.

Stimulating the shopping experience sharpened their math and budgeting skills. It also helped them feel more comfortable talking to one another about money.

2. We play “How Much Does It Cost?”

A game that we continue to play is “How Much Does It Cost?” (It’s basically our family’s version of “The Price Is Right.”)

At the dinner table, we all take turns presenting arbitrarily selected items for sale, along with multiple choice answers for their approximate prices.

A few examples:

  • Water bottle: $0.50, $2.50 or $6?
  • Movie ticket: $4, $10 or $40?
  • Monthly phone bill: $12, $100 or $400?
  • New (basic) car: $5,000, $35,000 or $500,000?

Games like this help them understand the relative values of various products and services.

3. We don’t freely give them money

One of the biggest mistakes I see parents making is offering unlimited funds to their children for non-essentials.

Our kids started getting a weekly allowance when they turned six. We’d give them $6 per week and increased the amount by $1 each year they got older. They could earn more if they did something good that week, like offer to help someone or ace a math test.

Of course, there are no set rules as to how much you should give your children; it mostly depends on your financial means and what you expect them to be financially responsible for.

The consequences of giving your children unlimited funds for discretionary spending (especially after they’ve used up their entire allowance) aren’t realized by most parents until much later.

Children of parents who do this may develop the habit of relying on additional funding sources that can be quite costly, such as debt in the form of high-interest credit cards.

4. We guide them through the budgeting process

The easiest way to teach your kids about budgeting is to budget together.

When my kids get invited to a birthday party, for example, I give them a reasonable budget and help them shop for a gift that stays within their price lane. (My wife and I prefer to do this on Amazon because it’s an easy way to teach them how to comparison shop.)

5. We show them how to put their money to work

When my oldest daughter saved up enough money, we relocated her cash from a piggy bank to a local bank.

“Congratulations! You’re putting your money to work,” I said.

Even though the process makes complete sense to you, it might be too abstract for some children. That’s why it’s important to explain — in layman’s terms — how their money is earning more money (passive income) and how that additional money will continue to generate even more money (compounding).

These are concepts and skills that will serve them for life.

6. We encourage them to do good with their money

My wife and I make it a point to donate to charity or a nonprofit organization every once in a while. It sets a good example for our kids and discourages behaviors of selfishness and greed.

When our kids have saved up enough money, we review a list of charitable organizations together (Charity Watch is a good place to start) and have them pick one that supports a mission they value.

This is a great way to teach them about sharing, kindness and how money — whether it’s $1 or $10 — can be used to help others.

Jim Brown is a financial consultant and the founder of Jim Brown Investing. With more than 30 years of expertise in the financial industry, Jim has been interviewed on Yahoo! Finance TV, the So Money Podcast with Farnoosh Torabi, KFNN Money Radio and U.S. News & World Report. He is also the co-author of “Financial Statement Fraud Casebook: Baking the Ledgers and Cooking the Books.”

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They became millionaires and retired at 31. They think you can do the same

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They became millionaires and retired at 31. They think you can do the same



The authors Kristy Shen and Bryce Leung are part of a movement called Fire that encourages people to save intensively to retire early










Kristy Shen and Bryce Leung, authors of Quit Like a Millionaire, retired at 31 and 32, respectively
Photograph: Kristy Shen and Bryce Leung

Growing up in poverty in rural China, where her family collectively lived on as little as $0.44 a day, Kristy Shen learned to make decisions based on pragmatism rather than passion from a young age.

On her first ever trip to a toy shop aged eight, after her family moved to Canada, she declined the offer of a teddy bear in favour of a cheaper one and requested that her father send the remainder of the money to their family in China. As a teenager, she chose to be a computer engineer, ignoring her dream to be a writer, based on a formula she devised to rank the best value university courses based on tuition fees versus future pay. And as an adult, any domestic disagreements with her husband, Bryce Leung, are generally won or lost based on who makes the best mathematical case.

But when, in 2012, Leung told her that in three years’ time their savings had the potential to hit C$1m (US$760,000) and they could retire in their early 30s, she was convinced the facts in front of her were incorrect. “My reaction was like, ‘No, this is wrong, your math is wrong, there’s something wrong here,’” she says. “I didn’t believe that was possible at all.”

In the end, of course, the most logical argument won. Three years later, Shen, then 31, and Leung, then 32, retired.

They are part of the growing Fire (financial independence retire early) movement that encourages workers to save intensively to enable them to stop working for money far earlier than is commonly done.

Today, at the grand old age of 36 and 37, respectively, Shen and Leung are reveling in their “retirement” (to use the term on two people so pulsating with youth seems disingenuous).





Kristy Shen and Bryce Leung during their travels. Photograph: Kristy Shen and Bryce Leung, author of How to Quit Like a Millionaire

Since leaving their old jobs – they both worked as computer engineers – they have travelled the world almost constantly – spending time in countries including Japan, the UK, Portugal and Thailand – started a successful blog, Millennial Revolution, teaching others how to retire early too, and co-written two books. The first was a children’s book, Little Miss Evil. The second, Quit Like a Millionaire, a memoir-cum-how-to guide came out this month and presents financial independence as a route to happiness and is refreshingly dismissive of home ownership as an investment.

To begin with, their friends and families were skeptical, expecting them to return penniless after a year. But travelling cost them less than spending a year at home in Toronto, and their investment portfolio has grown since they left their old lives behind, so they now have more money than they started with. Some people, says Shen, see what they’re doing as “invalidating” because it challenges the status quo. “It really makes people question their lives and they don’t like that because it’s scary.”

Their journey to Fire started fairly conventionally – they were saving for a deposit to buy a house. But the more they saved, the more house prices went up and the less sure about getting on the property ladder they became. By 2012, after seven years of saving, they had C$500,000, but Leung started looking for other solutions. After coming across early Fire bloggers like Mr Money Mustache, he says: “I realised based on what they were doing and where we were that we could either be in debt for the next 25 years or retired in about three.”

Using an adapted version of the “4% rule” – a principle borrowed from the traditional retirement world – they calculated their basic living expenses, C$40,000, and multiplied it by 25 to come to C$1m, the amount they would need to retire. In a total of nine years they managed to accrue around four-fifths of that in savings, plus a further C$200,000 through low-risk investments.

But their saving lifestyle wasn’t exactly frugal. They continued to spend money on holidays and even allowed for treats. Cuts were focused on three key areas: transportation, housing and food. They avoided eating out, only used public transport and car share services and lived away from downtown to save on rent. Tracking their spending helped to identify areas that they could cut back – including drinking habits. “At one point at the beginning, he was spending $400 just on beer,” says Shen, laughing. “I was like, ‘Do you realise this is how much we used to pay for rent at uni a month?’”

Now that they’re retired, they believe their savings, invested in low-cost index ETFs (exchange-traded funds), will keep them going for the foreseeable future. In case of disasters, including a 1929-style crash, they have three backup plans.

“We are probably some of the most pessimistic people you’ll ever meet,” says Leung, by way of explanation. “And we’re only doing this because we’ve created all these safety nets that will catch us.”

During her early childhood in Taiping, a village in Sichuan province, Shen says she learnt the scarcity mindset early on. “If you ever run out, the government is not here to help you, there’s never going to be any safety net to catch you. So my parents had instilled it in my head that money is the most important thing in the world.” As a student her father, who before she was born spent 10 years imprisoned in a labour camp, was able to visit Canada. Shen and her mother followed two years later.

Despite earning comparatively little money as a student and dishwasher, her parents sent money to China to support the rest of the family. Her early experiences in China gave Shen perspective on poverty, she says. “Basically, if you have four walls and you have your parents and you have food, you are wealthy.”

It’s a position of privilege to not be money-driven, she says. “Anybody that says ‘oh yeah, it’s only money’, ‘money comes and goes’, ‘it’s not about the money’, it’s like, you’ve never been poor.” If it hadn’t been for her childhood experiences, Shen doesn’t think she would be doing early retirement now. “I would’ve just thought just do something I love to do … I wouldn’t have thought put in the hard work now and get the gain later.”

Since retiring she is so much happier – at one point, her job made her so miserable she was on anxiety and depression medication – so much so that she wants to show others how to do it, too. She sees Fire as a remedy: “It’s almost like you see people get sick, you know what it feels like and it sucks to be sick and you want to give them the medication to help them feel better.”

Leung, meanwhile, says he was recently diagnosed as “obnoxiously happy” by a doctor. He is so convinced by the power of Fire that he thinks it could even have political ramifications. “[Donald] Trump’s rise to power was caused by economic fear, Brexit was caused by economic fear … If everybody was FI [financially independent], Trump wouldn’t have got elected.”

So would they ever go back to their old jobs? Shen giggles drily. “I don’t think I would be very useful as an employee any more.” She has, she says, become too open-minded to obediently follow instruction. “Once you’ve been out of the matrix, you can’t go back into the matrix,” she says soberly. “You’ve already seen too much.”

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An Investment Approach That Works

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An Investment Approach That Works

There are as many investment strategies as there are investment opportunities. Some are good; many are terrible. Here’s the one that I lean on the most when I’m looking for low risk and above average returns.

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“The whole secret of investment is to find places where it’s safe and wise to non-diversify. It’s just that simple.”

— Charlie Munger

Goal: An investment algorithm to lean on hard when it is available. Low-risk, long-duration, above-average returns.

There are many paths to investment heaven (and we’ve written on the topic before). The diversity of working approaches demonstrates that. However, fundamentally, any useful approach must do three things:

  1. It must work in all conceivable financial environments.
  2. It must be within the “circle of competence” and “circle of interestingness” of its user.
  3. It must meet the moral criteria of its user.

I believe the system below satisfies the first criterion, and allows for all three.

A 7–Element Algorithm for Equity Investing

Everyone Wins
Successful businesses have indefinitely sustainable business systems: owners, employees, customers, suppliers, all content.

Ballast for the Storm
Look for a sustainable balance sheet, given the capricious nature of the world. Past bad events do not predict future bad events. Sometimes inefficient balance sheets allow companies to survive by positioning them for all environments, not just optimizing for one.

Different and Hard to Match
Candidates must occupy a structurally profitable, indefinitely sustainable business niche, allowing for the truism that all moats are subject to being crossed eventually. There must be an element of mystery.

Operational Soundness
Reliable execution of the “blocking and tackling” of operations is a must. Getting this wrong always costs big, and can ruin a good niche.

A Few Simple Variables
Allowing for the difficulty of predicting the future, candidates should have just a few reasonably predictable economic variables that will dominate their outcomes. In the words of Warren Buffett, “There are all kinds of businesses where we have no idea what they’ll earn this year, let alone any future year.” Look for boring investments, sexy is usually complicated and full of competition. Look for what’s staying the same.

Long Runway
You should be able to foresee an indefinite period of growth ahead, through some combination of market creation, market penetration, and pricing power.

Priced Attractively
Stock should be priced so that stock returns >= business returns, always including a margin for error in forward-looking estimates.

Seemingly missing is the concept of “good management,” but I consider this redundant in light of the first four elements. Any business meeting those criteria is being managed properly, and any investment going 7/7 has a very low probability of failure.

Notice that the word indefinite is used several times. This does not mean the same thing as infinite. There are no infinities in the business world. Indefinite means “as far out as can presently be seen.”

Caution: what psychologists call the “representativeness heuristic” puts us at risk of over-fitting to this or any algorithm. Always be on guard. In the words of Richard Feynman, “Never fool yourself, and remember that you are the easiest person to fool.”